Comments on: At Mother’s Knee http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2006/10/at_mothers_knee Social Media and Public Relations Consulting � PR Squared Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:48:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tony http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2006/10/at_mothers_knee/comment-page-1#comment-334 Tony Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:52:37 +0000 http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=266#comment-334 Todd -- I'm sure you've caught up, but in case you haven't, Richard Edelman has gone on record about the whole deal as to why it happened. Shel Holtz covered it quite nicely: <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/blogtalk/blogtalk/wpn-58-20061101EdelmanGoesonRecord.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.webpronews.com/blogtalk/blogtalk/wpn-58-20061101EdelmanGoesonRecord.html</a> [SHAMLESS PROMO: I did tip Shel -- its funny how the whole thing slipped under everyone's radar] Todd — I’m sure you’ve caught up, but in case you haven’t, Richard Edelman has gone on record about the whole deal as to why it happened.

Shel Holtz covered it quite nicely:
http://www.webpronews.com/blogtalk/blogtalk/wpn-58-20061101EdelmanGoesonRecord.html

[SHAMLESS PROMO: I did tip Shel -- its funny how the whole thing slipped under everyone's radar]

]]> By: Mike Sacks http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2006/10/at_mothers_knee/comment-page-1#comment-333 Mike Sacks Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:08:43 +0000 http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=266#comment-333 The issue as simple as you describe. Basic lessons of honest and ethical pr practice were cast aside. Far too many bloggers were too easily willing to say "we'll they learned their lesson." If it was another agency that doesn't so cater to net nerds, a much bigger deal would have been made. But since it's the loveable Edelman crew, fuggetaboutit The issue as simple as you describe. Basic lessons of honest and ethical pr practice were cast aside.

Far too many bloggers were too easily willing to say “we’ll they learned their lesson.”

If it was another agency that doesn’t so cater to net nerds, a much bigger deal would have been made. But since it’s the loveable Edelman crew, fuggetaboutit

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2006/10/at_mothers_knee/comment-page-1#comment-332 Jennifer Tue, 24 Oct 2006 03:53:05 +0000 http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=266#comment-332 I completely agree -- if PRSA doesn't take a stand they're going to lose members -- and undermine the APR. The numbers of those leaving the org will be few, but the intellectual and ethical capital in those few will never be recovered. I just can't believe this happened. Of course they knew -- but what are they going to say? "We were going to do it for as long as we could get away with it?" *????* How disgenuine Edelman is. All their talk of transparency and ethics was just a veil to hide their press-agentry flog. It was nothing more than window-dressing. Makes me want to leave PR once and for all. We all know if the Dixie Chicks would have just apologized, everyone would have pretty much forgiven them. But, anymore, "I'm sorry," just isn't cutting it. What will the case study on this be? Apologizing isn't cutting the mustard. Why is that? The public, and PR practitioners most of all, know that PR folks regard admission of fault and mistake as the anecdote for crisis. But, admitting fault was not the anecdote for Edelman. That's because for some things there is no anecdote. I completely agree — if PRSA doesn’t take a stand they’re going to lose members — and undermine the APR. The numbers of those leaving the org will be few, but the intellectual and ethical capital in those few will never be recovered.

I just can’t believe this happened. Of course they knew — but what are they going to say? “We were going to do it for as long as we could get away with it?” *????*

How disgenuine Edelman is. All their talk of transparency and ethics was just a veil to hide their press-agentry flog. It was nothing more than window-dressing. Makes me want to leave PR once and for all. We all know if the Dixie Chicks would have just apologized, everyone would have pretty much forgiven them. But, anymore, “I’m sorry,” just isn’t cutting it. What will the case study on this be?

Apologizing isn’t cutting the mustard. Why is that? The public, and PR practitioners most of all, know that PR folks regard admission of fault and mistake as the anecdote for crisis. But, admitting fault was not the anecdote for Edelman. That’s because for some things there is no anecdote.

]]> By: nellie lide http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2006/10/at_mothers_knee/comment-page-1#comment-331 nellie lide Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:02:59 +0000 http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=266#comment-331 Todd - it does make me sick that these pr organizations that supposedly stand for ethics won't even listen or speak out. very depressing. as for the junior staffer question - don't they have managers overseeing them? I don't get it. Todd – it does make me sick that these pr organizations that supposedly stand for ethics won’t even listen or speak out. very depressing. as for the junior staffer question – don’t they have managers overseeing them? I don’t get it.

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