<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Generation M: Multimedia, Multicultural, Millenial, Mockumental</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic</link>
	<description>Social Media and Public Relations Consulting � PR Squared</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: chasity</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>chasity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-539</guid>
		<description>Todd,
Although my son is still young and I hope that I can teach him to accepting of all people, it is indeed a fine line. In a way I think this would be a good way to see if we are as open to everyone as we say. But on the other hand, most people are still easily offended by the jokes about their particular race. I do not like it when people get their feelings hurt over a marketing tactic. So, I&#039;m still not sure if we are ready for this type of PR. In a way it would give a green light to the cruel people of the world and give them ammunition to be   hurtful. So I would have to voice my opposition for this one.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,<br />
Although my son is still young and I hope that I can teach him to accepting of all people, it is indeed a fine line. In a way I think this would be a good way to see if we are as open to everyone as we say. But on the other hand, most people are still easily offended by the jokes about their particular race. I do not like it when people get their feelings hurt over a marketing tactic. So, I&#8217;m still not sure if we are ready for this type of PR. In a way it would give a green light to the cruel people of the world and give them ammunition to be   hurtful. So I would have to voice my opposition for this one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-538</guid>
		<description>Todd:

I&#039;ve experienced much the same thing in my very diverse community.  Kids today say things my generation would have never dreamed of saying to one another, and they all seem to laugh about it.

The problem, of course, is that when a kid takes this kind of banter to heart, it can be very hurtful.

Most willl not.  Some will.  It&#039;s difficult to tell who fits into each category.

The other thing I see that you did not describe is that while there is friendship and communication between the races, most kids in my community do tend to self-segregate.

It&#039;s amazing to go to the mall and see these groups of kids all broken down by ethnicity and background.   Not that they don&#039;t interact at all, because they do, but their first choice is still &quot;people who look like themselves.&quot;

How much of that is driven by their parents&#039; desire for them to associate with peers from similar backgrounds, and how much is just natural levels of comfort, I don&#039;t know.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced much the same thing in my very diverse community.  Kids today say things my generation would have never dreamed of saying to one another, and they all seem to laugh about it.</p>
<p>The problem, of course, is that when a kid takes this kind of banter to heart, it can be very hurtful.</p>
<p>Most willl not.  Some will.  It&#8217;s difficult to tell who fits into each category.</p>
<p>The other thing I see that you did not describe is that while there is friendship and communication between the races, most kids in my community do tend to self-segregate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing to go to the mall and see these groups of kids all broken down by ethnicity and background.   Not that they don&#8217;t interact at all, because they do, but their first choice is still &#8220;people who look like themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>How much of that is driven by their parents&#8217; desire for them to associate with peers from similar backgrounds, and how much is just natural levels of comfort, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin Dill</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-537</guid>
		<description>Todd, I know where you are coming from on this post.  But, ,mankind has not been able to overcome racism for thousands of years.  Let&#039;s face it.  They never will.  If we were all the same language, color, size, etc., there would still be issues.  You would be from the West and I live in the South.  We could draw lines over that.  Although kids do make stereotypical jokes, there is a necessity in that.  In a way it is an ice breaker to the racial awkwardness that still exists.  Shannon is right about it going too far also.  Kids and adults lose self control when center stage of a joke.  Let&#039;s face it, the &quot;Human Race&quot; is truly that. We are racing to a finish line of commonality and acceptance.  Unfortunately we do not know which path to take to successfully finish. Tolerance-Intolerance.
We all share this globe.  The only differentiation I see is that you are my &quot;Brother from another mother.&quot;

Kevin
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, I know where you are coming from on this post.  But, ,mankind has not been able to overcome racism for thousands of years.  Let&#8217;s face it.  They never will.  If we were all the same language, color, size, etc., there would still be issues.  You would be from the West and I live in the South.  We could draw lines over that.  Although kids do make stereotypical jokes, there is a necessity in that.  In a way it is an ice breaker to the racial awkwardness that still exists.  Shannon is right about it going too far also.  Kids and adults lose self control when center stage of a joke.  Let&#8217;s face it, the &#8220;Human Race&#8221; is truly that. We are racing to a finish line of commonality and acceptance.  Unfortunately we do not know which path to take to successfully finish. Tolerance-Intolerance.<br />
We all share this globe.  The only differentiation I see is that you are my &#8220;Brother from another mother.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Todd Defren</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Defren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-536</guid>
		<description>I agree, Shannon.  This post was more a &quot;thought exercise&quot; than meant to imply a hope to see marketers jump into self-aware, self-mocking ethnic-focused campaigns.

For the record, I&#039;ve talked to my own son at length about all this.  It&#039;s been a useful and interesting exercise.  The hardest part was explaining that he wasn&#039;t &quot;in trouble&quot; but that I wanted to have a meaningful dialogue with him about it all.

The good news is that he is a good kid, who (so far) seems to know where &quot;the line&quot; is.  To cross that line, in his eyes, seems to be a truly abhorrent thought.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Shannon.  This post was more a &#8220;thought exercise&#8221; than meant to imply a hope to see marketers jump into self-aware, self-mocking ethnic-focused campaigns.</p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;ve talked to my own son at length about all this.  It&#8217;s been a useful and interesting exercise.  The hardest part was explaining that he wasn&#8217;t &#8220;in trouble&#8221; but that I wanted to have a meaningful dialogue with him about it all.</p>
<p>The good news is that he is a good kid, who (so far) seems to know where &#8220;the line&#8221; is.  To cross that line, in his eyes, seems to be a truly abhorrent thought.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Shannon Whitley</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Whitley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-535</guid>
		<description>As parents, we are falling into a dangerous trap.  We &quot;think&quot; we&#039;ve raised our kids to be color-blind, but that&#039;s simply not true.  No matter what kind of job we&#039;ve done with our kids, America is still an incredibly racist society.

The problem with good-natured stereotyping is that people never know when to quit.  It doesn&#039;t take long before someone crosses the line and says something stupid.

I&#039;m a redneck, married to a black woman with two mixed kids, so I&#039;ve seen both &quot;sides&quot; of the conversation.  I&#039;ve heard what people say in private when they think they&#039;re joking.  I cringe whenever I hear kids talking like this because at some point they will say something out-of-line.

When my son, who&#039;s six, talks like this with his friends (and I know he will), I&#039;ll take him aside and let him know why it&#039;s not okay.  I&#039;ll tell him that people don&#039;t know when the kidding ends and the hurtfulness begins.  He won&#039;t be able to stop it, but he can silently choose not to encourage it.

Maybe America will be ready for this type of marketing in a hundred years or so, after Generation X has died out.  My secret hope is that marketers of the future will focus more on what Americans have in common.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As parents, we are falling into a dangerous trap.  We &#8220;think&#8221; we&#8217;ve raised our kids to be color-blind, but that&#8217;s simply not true.  No matter what kind of job we&#8217;ve done with our kids, America is still an incredibly racist society.</p>
<p>The problem with good-natured stereotyping is that people never know when to quit.  It doesn&#8217;t take long before someone crosses the line and says something stupid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a redneck, married to a black woman with two mixed kids, so I&#8217;ve seen both &#8220;sides&#8221; of the conversation.  I&#8217;ve heard what people say in private when they think they&#8217;re joking.  I cringe whenever I hear kids talking like this because at some point they will say something out-of-line.</p>
<p>When my son, who&#8217;s six, talks like this with his friends (and I know he will), I&#8217;ll take him aside and let him know why it&#8217;s not okay.  I&#8217;ll tell him that people don&#8217;t know when the kidding ends and the hurtfulness begins.  He won&#8217;t be able to stop it, but he can silently choose not to encourage it.</p>
<p>Maybe America will be ready for this type of marketing in a hundred years or so, after Generation X has died out.  My secret hope is that marketers of the future will focus more on what Americans have in common.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-534</guid>
		<description>Todd,

I think your post is very interesting.  The idea of equal opportunity racism is an intersting one, and I think one that is almost embraced to a degree by younger generations who are not as easily offended.  You can look at pop culture such as The Family Guy which doesn&#039;t shy away from  making a joke at just about anything.  A few years ago Fox refused to show an episode called &quot;Wish Upon A Weinstein&quot; which played up on Jewish stereotypes.  I eventually saw the episode on Adult Swim, and as a Jew, I couldn&#039;t stop laughing at the idiocy of the characters.

In regards to marketers looking to embrace some of this, it is a fine line, and I think depends if they are trying to cater to just a specific audience or a broad audience.  One person already spoke about the GEICO Caveman adds - which I also think are very witty and funny.  AdAge this week posted a story and links to  video from NBC&#039;s Mun2 Hispanic Cable Chanel with their new campaign &quot;Are You Too Gringo&quot;.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://adage.com/article?article_id=115085&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adage.com/article?article_id=115085&lt;/a&gt;

I actually cringed a little when I watched it.  I wonder how the hispanic community thinks about it.  Is it OK, because the piece comes from the channel that is catering to that audience and was the brainchild of a Hispanic marketing firm?

Will marketers try to reach out to specific audiences with similar campaigns, or will we see more efforts like the GEICO Caveman?

All very interesting stuff.  It&#039;s rare to see marketers going out on such a limb as to toy with the proverbial third rail of race.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>I think your post is very interesting.  The idea of equal opportunity racism is an intersting one, and I think one that is almost embraced to a degree by younger generations who are not as easily offended.  You can look at pop culture such as The Family Guy which doesn&#8217;t shy away from  making a joke at just about anything.  A few years ago Fox refused to show an episode called &#8220;Wish Upon A Weinstein&#8221; which played up on Jewish stereotypes.  I eventually saw the episode on Adult Swim, and as a Jew, I couldn&#8217;t stop laughing at the idiocy of the characters.</p>
<p>In regards to marketers looking to embrace some of this, it is a fine line, and I think depends if they are trying to cater to just a specific audience or a broad audience.  One person already spoke about the GEICO Caveman adds &#8211; which I also think are very witty and funny.  AdAge this week posted a story and links to  video from NBC&#8217;s Mun2 Hispanic Cable Chanel with their new campaign &#8220;Are You Too Gringo&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://adage.com/article?article_id=115085" rel="nofollow">http://adage.com/article?article_id=115085</a></p>
<p>I actually cringed a little when I watched it.  I wonder how the hispanic community thinks about it.  Is it OK, because the piece comes from the channel that is catering to that audience and was the brainchild of a Hispanic marketing firm?</p>
<p>Will marketers try to reach out to specific audiences with similar campaigns, or will we see more efforts like the GEICO Caveman?</p>
<p>All very interesting stuff.  It&#8217;s rare to see marketers going out on such a limb as to toy with the proverbial third rail of race.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Todd Defren</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Defren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-533</guid>
		<description>Great points, Ike.  I admit that as I was writing this post, the first draft did not say &quot;typical liberal&quot; but &quot;coastal liberal.&quot;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Ike.  I admit that as I was writing this post, the first draft did not say &#8220;typical liberal&#8221; but &#8220;coastal liberal.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2007/02/generation_m_multimedia_multic/comment-page-1#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pr-squared.com/pr2wp/?p=313#comment-3095</guid>
		<description>Todd, I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re about to run into the Bizarro-World of &quot;Flyover Country Double-Standard.&quot;

I agree with you, that we are witnessing the onset of a generation that is embracing differences, for good and for ill.  However, advertisers that try to woo the &quot;M&quot; with hip references and social satire will only get play on the coasts.

Ironically, it&#039;s NOT because the midwest and the deep south isn&#039;t ready for such conversations -- it&#039;s the perceptions carried by the writers and editors living in the bubble that is DC and NYC.  A campaign that you describe run locally in San Francisco or Boston would be hailed as genius.  The same campaign run in San Antonio or Birmingham would be universally panned by the Times, the Post, and NPR as The Last Gasp of the Good Ole Boys.&quot;

You want to know why the GEICO Cavemen are so damned successful?

1) By mocking cultural insensitivity through the use of a non-existent group, no one gets offended.

2) Those of us in &quot;The Land of Big Metal Birds in Sky&quot; actually identify with the Cavemen.  Remember the look on the face of the Airport Caveman on the moving sidewalk?  We get that same feeling when we travel to the coasts.  Just flash an Alabama or Mississippi driver&#039;s license at a hotel clerk, and the stares soon follow.  Some of them talk slower to me, as though I can&#039;t process words as quickly.

&quot;And everywhere I go, there’s always something to remind me...&quot;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re about to run into the Bizarro-World of &#8220;Flyover Country Double-Standard.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you, that we are witnessing the onset of a generation that is embracing differences, for good and for ill.  However, advertisers that try to woo the &#8220;M&#8221; with hip references and social satire will only get play on the coasts.</p>
<p>Ironically, it&#8217;s NOT because the midwest and the deep south isn&#8217;t ready for such conversations &#8212; it&#8217;s the perceptions carried by the writers and editors living in the bubble that is DC and NYC.  A campaign that you describe run locally in San Francisco or Boston would be hailed as genius.  The same campaign run in San Antonio or Birmingham would be universally panned by the Times, the Post, and NPR as The Last Gasp of the Good Ole Boys.&#8221;</p>
<p>You want to know why the GEICO Cavemen are so damned successful?</p>
<p>1) By mocking cultural insensitivity through the use of a non-existent group, no one gets offended.</p>
<p>2) Those of us in &#8220;The Land of Big Metal Birds in Sky&#8221; actually identify with the Cavemen.  Remember the look on the face of the Airport Caveman on the moving sidewalk?  We get that same feeling when we travel to the coasts.  Just flash an Alabama or Mississippi driver&#8217;s license at a hotel clerk, and the stares soon follow.  Some of them talk slower to me, as though I can&#8217;t process words as quickly.</p>
<p>&#8220;And everywhere I go, there’s always something to remind me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
