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	<title>Comments on: Engaged in Corporate Espionage?</title>
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		<title>By: Ashok K Sharma</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-3#comment-2415</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok K Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a person, so wonderful like you beats me, I would like to offer him first round without any resistance. As a compliment, appreciation and my support. You deseve all that Todd!
2- Yes, I use all sorts of tricks to attain what I need. So far I am winning it&#039;s successful PR, but if you are going to win and I tie up with you, is it still.
It&#039;s better to get beaten. Better than being defeated and crushed to death. Sometimes later it will be my turn..
Bless you..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a person, so wonderful like you beats me, I would like to offer him first round without any resistance. As a compliment, appreciation and my support. You deseve all that Todd!<br />
2- Yes, I use all sorts of tricks to attain what I need. So far I am winning it&#8217;s successful PR, but if you are going to win and I tie up with you, is it still.<br />
It&#8217;s better to get beaten. Better than being defeated and crushed to death. Sometimes later it will be my turn..<br />
Bless you..</p>
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		<title>By: maggiefox</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-3#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>maggiefox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd of course I did not mean to imply that it was! Simply that in most cases, sharing the documents you describe can break existing agreements (NDAs or employment contracts, if your competitor is thorough), just curious how that factors in to any decision to look at them.

And I&#039;ll admit it, too - if a client chose to share proposals received from our competitors, I would feel a slight frisson of guilt, but I would get over it (as long as doing so would not break any existing agreement).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd of course I did not mean to imply that it was! Simply that in most cases, sharing the documents you describe can break existing agreements (NDAs or employment contracts, if your competitor is thorough), just curious how that factors in to any decision to look at them.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll admit it, too &#8211; if a client chose to share proposals received from our competitors, I would feel a slight frisson of guilt, but I would get over it (as long as doing so would not break any existing agreement).</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-3#comment-2413</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so it goes.  Where&#039;s the ROI in social media a CMO might ask?  It&#039;s right here and all of the other places where intelligent people write their ideas for you to ponder.

So the next time Mr. CMO you are calculating the ROI of social media, include the thousands of dollars of advice in these and similar pages.  In fact, you might even decide to participate by asking a few specific questions and then all this networking will really be worth it.

Just make sure you don&#039;t give your business to the lowest bidder, execution of ideas has its price.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so it goes.  Where&#8217;s the ROI in social media a CMO might ask?  It&#8217;s right here and all of the other places where intelligent people write their ideas for you to ponder.</p>
<p>So the next time Mr. CMO you are calculating the ROI of social media, include the thousands of dollars of advice in these and similar pages.  In fact, you might even decide to participate by asking a few specific questions and then all this networking will really be worth it.</p>
<p>Just make sure you don&#8217;t give your business to the lowest bidder, execution of ideas has its price.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brogan...</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-3#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brogan...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t look at me. I run a pirate ship. : )

I got an email the other day intended to be an &quot;atta boy,&quot; from someone inside a rather large PR firm. Turns out a few of my blog posts are now training material for parts of the new PR.

Briefly - very - I was steamed, thinking about how I could&#039;ve turned a few dollars for training that information directly.

In the end? I&#039;m custom, I&#039;m me, and I&#039;m going to give away everything because where I really shine is in what I do NEXT.

So rock on, you bad motha. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re out there competing. (By the way, I might have some trad/hybrid business to throw your way soon, so don&#039;t be a stranger).  : )
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t look at me. I run a pirate ship. : )</p>
<p>I got an email the other day intended to be an &#8220;atta boy,&#8221; from someone inside a rather large PR firm. Turns out a few of my blog posts are now training material for parts of the new PR.</p>
<p>Briefly &#8211; very &#8211; I was steamed, thinking about how I could&#8217;ve turned a few dollars for training that information directly.</p>
<p>In the end? I&#8217;m custom, I&#8217;m me, and I&#8217;m going to give away everything because where I really shine is in what I do NEXT.</p>
<p>So rock on, you bad motha. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re out there competing. (By the way, I might have some trad/hybrid business to throw your way soon, so don&#8217;t be a stranger).  : )</p>
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		<title>By: Kami Huyse</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-2#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Kami Huyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me say that I did not exactly say that I only share &quot;old news.&quot; What I really said was that it would be old news within three months and that is is my job to stay on top of the curve. ;-) I think you are pretty much the same Todd, though I have to say that as a competitor you are always gracious in my experience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me say that I did not exactly say that I only share &#8220;old news.&#8221; What I really said was that it would be old news within three months and that is is my job to stay on top of the curve. <img src='http://www.pr-squared.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think you are pretty much the same Todd, though I have to say that as a competitor you are always gracious in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Defren</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-2#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Defren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maggie - &quot;breaking the law&quot; ain&#039;t my bag.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maggie &#8211; &#8220;breaking the law&#8221; ain&#8217;t my bag.</p>
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		<title>By: maggiefox</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggiefox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Todd - great post, and Shel asked a very good question indeed. But I&#039;d like to take a it a little further. In most cases, employees have NDA clauses in their employment agreements that sharing a document would breach (during or after their employment). What&#039;s your comfort level with encouraging someone to breach a contract (essentially breaking their word) in order to obtain competitive advantage?

Aside from that - thanks for the nod, and I think that Isaac Newton put it best, noting that if he had seen further, it was because he had the luck to &quot;stand on the shoulders of giants.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Todd &#8211; great post, and Shel asked a very good question indeed. But I&#8217;d like to take a it a little further. In most cases, employees have NDA clauses in their employment agreements that sharing a document would breach (during or after their employment). What&#8217;s your comfort level with encouraging someone to breach a contract (essentially breaking their word) in order to obtain competitive advantage?</p>
<p>Aside from that &#8211; thanks for the nod, and I think that Isaac Newton put it best, noting that if he had seen further, it was because he had the luck to &#8220;stand on the shoulders of giants.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clay S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I know I take these words to heart on so many levels from following competitor blogs and proposals to watching the Title tags and SEO targets of our closest competitor websites.

Just today, by following a competitor CEO on Twitter, I discovered a technique he was using on the side to generate business to his main company.  It&#039;s a great idea and gave me some ideas, but I would never have come across it without keeping this &quot;enemy&quot; a little closer than my friends.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I know I take these words to heart on so many levels from following competitor blogs and proposals to watching the Title tags and SEO targets of our closest competitor websites.</p>
<p>Just today, by following a competitor CEO on Twitter, I discovered a technique he was using on the side to generate business to his main company.  It&#8217;s a great idea and gave me some ideas, but I would never have come across it without keeping this &#8220;enemy&#8221; a little closer than my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Toole</title>
		<link>http://www.pr-squared.com/index.php/2008/11/engaged_in_corporate_espionage/comment-page-2#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, if you have a copy of Shift&#039;s client list and contacts lying around, I&#039;m happy to review for you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, if you have a copy of Shift&#8217;s client list and contacts lying around, I&#8217;m happy to review for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, if you have a copy of Shift&#039;s client list and contacts lying around, I&#039;m happy to review for you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, if you have a copy of Shift&#8217;s client list and contacts lying around, I&#8217;m happy to review for you.</p>
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